[mtp-vykony] Re: [mtp-program] question to the mtp politburo

[zuzana at 34.sk]

ok, beriem, to sa da dovysvetlit, len som bola zhrozena, ze akoze teraz
vyzerame, ze si tu prelievame granty a nikomu nedame
ked to guy nacal, tak chudaci maju pravo vediet, co je s prachmi
committee, group egal, mozem to doplnit...



On Fri, March 23, 2007 5:09 pm, Maria Riskova wrote:
> ano, mali by sme sa zase vratit k strukture a reforme, moja chyba, ze som
> nedokoncila ten manual normalne skor, nez sme sa zacali bavit s
> organizatormi... bolo by vela veci jasnejsich a cistejsich, teraz to treba
> dojasnovat za chodu, aspon mame case studies priamo po ruke
>
> priznam sa, ja uz nemam moc energie na tieto riesenia, ledva zvladam dat
> dokopy program a budovat rozsiahlu strukturu ma nebavi, rada by som to
> nechala na ostatnych (ako som uz avizovala niekolko krat) nez sa toho chyti
> viac ludi ako to robi teraz, tak este vydrzim, ale po tomto rocniku by som
>  chcela byt uz iba jeden z organizatorov a pre ostatnych robit napriklad
> ten avizovany archiv a pod.
>
> a ku guyovmu mejlu sa, dusan, nevyjadris? to bolo uplne koser vsetko?
> preco ste neriesili workshop s ostatnymi skor? bavili ste sa o tom
> dostatocne?
>
> caute m
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> At 4:57 PM +0100 3/23/07, dusan wrote:
>
>> caute,
>>
>> dve poznamky k zuzaninmu (inak pomerne zasadnemu, kedze medzi
>> organizatormi sa otazky financovania este takto skupinovo neriesili)
>> mailu:
>> - "committee" posobi dost odstrasujuco, "group" resp skupina je imho
>> priznacnejsie - ked sa pise takyto vseobecny mail, malo by byt z neho
>> jasne ze mtp moze financovat iba aktivity prepajajuce organizatorov mtp,
>>  nie individualne projekty, to je dolezite dost.
>>
>> dik dusan
>>
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>> On Fri, March 23, 2007 1:13 pm, zuzana at 34.sk said:
>>
>>> dear all,
>>>
>>> yes, question of financial support of multiplace activities is very
>>> important.
>>>
>>> at the beginning, everything was produced by single local
>>> organizations and volunteers. Since 2 years, we have an "umbrella"
>>> organisation called multiplace, which is able to receive funds.
>>>
>>> last 2 years were spent on posters and flyers, webdesign and fees for
>>>  coordinators (who serve with their time and effort to make this
>>> network possible)
>>>
>>> this year, we will receive (it's just a promisse at the momet, so we
>>> have to borrow the money first, it's tricky) 17 000 EUR total, which is
>>> enough to cover posters, programs, web, server hosting and purchase,
>>> people, some small donations to infocenter in brno, infocenter in
>>> bratislava + we cover all the travel expenses and hostel for streaming
>>> workshop in zilina this year
>>>
>>> it's a complicated question where to give money and where not, when
>>> it comes to program and single needs... We generally don't want to
>>> say: we
>>> support nothing, find your own money! and we also can't really say:
>>> hello, we will give you anything you need (no socialism anymore:)
>>>
>>> so whoever has a financial need (but please note the budget of 17000
>>> EUR
>>> and all the things that has to be paid) it must be discussed within
>>> executive multiplace committee
>>>
>>> there is a strong will to support more than just printing of posters.
>>>
>>>
>>> by the way, hope you all have received them, or receive them soon -
>>> they are quite minimalistic, as you see, should represent the idea of
>>> connected cities - and provide space for your personalisation. That
>>> means, you are strongly recomended to draw on them, make them more
>>> colorfull, make whatever is close to visual communication of your
>>> organisation...
>>>
>>> best,
>>>
>>> zuzana
>>>
>>> On Fri, March 23, 2007 10:31 am, gívan belá wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> so, this weekend we are setting up the connected workshop 'how to
>>>> make network art for multiplace' and will spend more than 2 long
>>>> days with more than 20 people there and try to get them to
>>>> participate into a worldspanning slovakia/moravia covering
>>>> initiative for the illustrious festival that is coming up
>>>>
>>>> now, we will try to set up the possibility to participate into a
>>>> distributed translocational orchestra, which can be brought in for
>>>> any opening or celebration with a mix of onsite and online
>>>> performers, name could be again phase II of the DNSf (the "dunaj, a
>>>> noisy stream, fanfare") and will set up a booking bureau for the
>>>> duration of the mtp festival
>>>>
>>>> but how do we deal with costs of support, organisation and
>>>> realization:
>>>> have to buy tickets, food, heat, and internet packages to survive a
>>>> wicked world is it all part of the individual organizers or what
>>>> tunes into overall initiative - the repercussion of bringing people
>>>> from everywhere into a common initiative is of course you have to
>>>> support them along the creativity axis as well - and what not?
>>>>
>>>> please clarify now, because I am not going to drag people into a
>>>> story that is not supported by multiplace organisation requests are
>>>> now by bastart and 13m3 to play a gala concert (in virtual and real
>>>> tuxedos)
>>>>
>>>> sooooooooooooo?
>>>>
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